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I understand fur and I'm here with noted

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somewhere in the skies writer of the

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book somewhere in the skies and just

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all-around nice guy Ryan spread cation

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how's it going there man

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I'm here you know I'm having a good time

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we're Ted tackling some now I won't call

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them tough issues for me necessarily but

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you know I love to hold your feet to the

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fire yeah yeah I think that's very

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important what would you consider the

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biggest challenge as a UFO just in this

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day and age especially in a day and age

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when we have not just people like me who

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can hop on their phone and do an

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interview about why they don't believe

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in something but people have a lot of

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that information right at their

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fingertips the they I you could almost

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say that with the more office your

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options to do their own research people

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do less research these days so yeah what

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with all of that happening what is the

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biggest issue that you found that you

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face well I think the biggest issue when

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it comes to the UFO topic is trying to

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disseminate the the hoaxes from the

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reality I mean anyone can fake a UFO

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sighting or a video it's so easy to do

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there are apps literally out there to

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insert a UFO into your photos so a lot

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of people are out there claiming you

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know they were taken aboard a craft or

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they visited Mars and worked on

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spaceships with Obama I mean these are

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literal things that people are saying

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about I'm not - and

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millions of people are watching these

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videos and believing it so it's hard

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it's hard especially because I think

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that I would want nothing more than to

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work on a spaceship with Barack Obama

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how does somebody like you who's trying

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to sift through the noise deal with

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something like that that's a really good

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way to put it we often look at it as

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trying to find that signal amongst the

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noise there's so much out there so much

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saturation of conspiracy theories when

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when I tell people what I do that I'm in

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the UFOs they automatically look at me

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like I'm one of these Alex Jones type

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people you know espousing the most

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ridiculous conspiracy theories out there

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with absolutely no basis for fact

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whatsoever

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and we do we live in a digital age of

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YouTube and Facebook and Instagram where

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everyone wants to be known everybody

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wants to be seen an influencer is an

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actual thing in our society and we have

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those in the UFO field as well

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influencers absolutely these people who

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are out there touting certain things to

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get to a certain demographic or a

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certain set of beliefs and they're hired

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to say these things even though they

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don't actually believe it I mean there

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are people out there who actually say

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that they are talking to blue chicken

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aliens on the planet Mars and they're

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working with former presidents on these

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spaceships during these space Wars now

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these not actual people up getting

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millions of clicks and down and this is

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what would you say is the craziest story

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that you have heard that you believe

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that you have had to explain to other

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Wow that something that you're just like

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listen I know nobody's gonna believe if

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I tell them that there are little green

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Goblin's running around terrorizing

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these peoples home however I got a lot

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of things to back that up

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I got a lot of things that they really

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believe that you're a sane person what's

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something that would make me think

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otherwise thank you really that's

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probably one of the cases I'm not gonna

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lie I don't know if that was a leading

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or what but you didn't call that a happy

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accident um so there's a case that

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happened in Hopkinsville sure which is

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in Kentucky sounds made-up it's a real

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place oh yeah sure go to Hopkinsville oh

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so these two families the Sutton family

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and the the other names escaping me at

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the moment but these two families are

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coming together this is back in the

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okay um very rural area in Kentucky

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farmhouse and they had a nice dinner and

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they were just catching up and having a

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good time and when everyone was about to

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go to bed one of the wives of one of the

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husbands she noticed something in the

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window and she liked to start to look it

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out and she's freaked out she's a

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cock-up go go see there there might be a

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predator out there or something so one

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of the husbands goes out to look and I'm

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not kidding you in the treeline he sees

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about five different beings floating in

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mid-air well they're floating floating

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okay midair they're probably about this

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tall maybe two and a half feet or so or

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yeah and their goblins the goblins what

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what supplement eating goblins what

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classifies a goblin and I don't mean to

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laugh I'm sorry that's I it shots over I

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get excited when I hear about floating

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goblins but what would constitute a

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goblin in this case so a lot of people

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like to attribute this case to a close

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encounter of an alien okay okay you've

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got these beings out there who are

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invading a home scoping out the area but

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the way that these things were described

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is they were small they were pudgy they

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had big black eyes but they also had

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huge alpha like ears so I mean we're not

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talking these prototypical grey alien

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rights with the bald heads big heads oh

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there's no extra features right right so

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we're almost talking about like an

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amalgamation alien lore and goblin more

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sort of mixing together and the whole

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floating in mid-air thing I don't know

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what to make of it and then they go out

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with their guns and try to shoot at

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these things to get them off their

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property because that's what you do when

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you live in a rural area and get off my

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land and they start shooting at these

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things and the bullets are just

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deflecting off of them so I mean what is

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that and both families say this thing

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happened they said that there was like a

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gunfight that ensued yeah the Goblin

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said that good news but they were

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shooting at the Goblin I've watched this

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movie anyway but if they had guns move

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in begin to some kind of John wick

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situation just some goblins dive in a

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car what makes you believe that story

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ah the fact that to their dying day

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every member of the family stuck to the

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to the point where it got so much

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attention that reporters from all over

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the world were descending on the small

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area in Kentucky I mean you have

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reporters from Japan from like the

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Middle East in the 50s yeah brother

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look at this thing yeah and it got so

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bad that they eventually sold the farm

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and moved away Wow so this event again

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while it sounds ridiculous and we can

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laugh about it it ruined their lives in

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one way the fact that they came forward

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and talked about this of course there's

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gonna be people that talk and of course

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believe them

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it broke up members of the family

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friends their community their parish of

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the church and they kind of tried to not

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talk about it for the rest of their

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you have claimed yourself to live had a

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sighting when you were 12 years old if

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there was anything that you think you

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could go back to ask your 12 year old

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selves about about that moment what do

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you think that it was because we are

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aware out of time you're almost twice

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removed from that point in your life or

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from that point your life it's I know at

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least for me and it may not be the case

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for summer may not be the case for

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somebody who had a moment

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that huge that age but it can be hard to

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recall that certain perspective so if

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you are able to go back and ask yourself

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like the next morning a question what

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would it be I asked my older self that

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many times Anjali I mean because of

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where I'm at in my life now the older

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things and the more you start to find

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present answers for things in their life

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UFO sighting it could have been anything

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and that's where my mind was it could

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have been a plane it could have been a

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UFO it could have been you know anything

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in the world and now looking back at it

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self anything it wouldn't even be a

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question it would be remember this for

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what it was and not what you're gonna

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think it was because now in a later life

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I I feel that what I saw was something

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completely prosaic and conventional and

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that almost bums me out or you know I

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think been sent on this path in my life

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now of trying to investigate UFOs and

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find answers to these mysteries and

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that's awesome and I love it but I wish

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that I could have that 12 year old

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feeling of just complete innocence and

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imagination again so I think I would

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tell myself remain open I do feel that

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the older I get and the more that I look

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into these topics the the more skeptical

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that's important too but you always have

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to remain open-minded when it comes to

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these topics because the minute you

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think you haven't figure it out

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it flips you on your ass

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- something - right so if I could go

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back and tell myself anything it's to to

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keep doing what you're doing and to keep

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looking up at the skies hey I'm Ryan

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I'm a UFO researcher author podcast host

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and you can find all of my work at

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somewhere in the sky is calm I'm Andrew